About Jakarta ~ LB-69

Hello all

I'm relatively new in jkt, as well as to shemales, but i'm slowly expanding my experience through relationships with tgs from here.

I'll at a later date try to give a more coherent description of what's happening in this fantastic city.

But for starters i can say that my interaction with shemales here has not been much different from my interaction with females here. I'm actually NOT into the "hooker-game' so my relationships tend to be of a different nature than for most guys, i guess. Not that i have any reservations about it (in many ways prostitution here is much less brutal than in the west - as well as much more nuanced), but it's just not my style.

Therefore, the shemales I mostly meet are as diverse and different than any other... mostly highly intelligent and extremely succesful at what they do which range from being financial directors to hairdressers.

Sometimes, i meet the opinion, that shemales (i actually dislike the term "ladyboy" and find it degrading) are only in this game for prostitution. Hopefully, my story can help balance this view, which i believe to be wrong.

HH

Hi HH,

Thanks for the introductory post, look forward to hearing more about your experiences in Jakarta.

Unfortunately for a whole range of reasons, the majority of "Shemales" we tend to meet are in the "hooker game" and this does tend to give an unrealistic impression of transexuals overall.
We forget that the majority are not involved in prostitution, and work in a wide range of industries / professions.

Cheers
Koykaeng

Hi Koykaeng

Thx for your reply - indeed, your comment is true and just as relevant for FEmales, actually. It appears that many of us westerners have a tendency to regard South East Asia as a "hookers' haven or heaven" and then forget that it is also so much more.

So be it... and enough about that.

Some one at this forum wrote in another thread that his impression of shemales in Jakarta was that they were more "raw" than in Thailand - meaning not so much into hormones and mostly non-ops. In general I believe this to be very true.

I've discussed this as well as so many other tg related matters in depth with several shemale friends. One reason could be religious or maybe still a more "rural" approach to life than in Bangkok.

What ever the reason, this is, of course, only relevant with regards to obvious physical attributes - unless we are dealing with feelings of entrapment in "the wrong body". The absolute majority of shemales I know in Jakarta are perfectly happy with their sex, quite a few have actually tried hormones (and decided against it due to certain negative effects on bodily functions), and are as feminine (often more so) than most females.

Most are also normally gay - actually SO gay that they would not turn on to gay men. Straight guys are what they want. Again, mostly... not always. And I find a refreshing openness about this here that I didn't find in Northern Europe, where I'm from. Indeed, the whole idea of transsexuality is of a very different nature in Northern Europe - and the West I guess. In spite of our apparent Western sexual openmindedness, transsexuality is still ridiculed and considered a bit comical.

Not really here. I know several 24/7 shemales, as well as part-timers - their daily life as shemales is as natural as for any other sex.

Surely, shemales here may also experience degrading comments and hostility, but all in all it seems to be more acceptable in this part of the world - an observation which is also supported by research.

I'll get back to my more personal entry into this later.

HH

hi hh, I'm in Jakarta myself often, seen your posts to Koykaeng on the lb scene there, would really appreciate any help you can give where I can find ideally non street trade lb's, I'm interested in being discrete if possible but getting desparate for some sweet young tgirls action, johnbd

Ladyboy Lover Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 46 Points: 33

Hi OP,

Will be in JKT next week.
Would love to hang out with you and meet up with some local LB's

Kind regards,

Alex

I actually do receive quite a few "requests" for being a guide into the whos, whats and wheres of the socalled Jakarta transsexual "scene"...

I'm neither a pimp nor an expert... I just happen to have quite a few ts friends (and yes, lovers)...

But these people are my friends! And I guess I tend to be a bit over-protective of my friends...

That said, sure, I'll help any normal, safe and sane guy to get in contact with the "non-street" transsexuals - and for the record, I know very little about the "street-active" shemale prostitutes here - except for the fact that they may not always be so much fun to get too close too...

I'm not - at all - into "ayam" (local term for prostitute) neither fe- nor shemale. Just not my style - and living here I'm not necessarily in a hurry, if you catch my drift. So my wide circle of friends tend to be occupied in other trades... which ever their sex... or gender...

The best suggestion I so far can come up with is for you to get in touch with like-minded transsexuals on a range of fora totally suited for any kind of contact - from innocent chatting to setting up sexual encounters of a professional nature.

A real good forum is gayromeo.com - mostly for gays ( Shocked

) but none the less an excellent spot for other kinds of interaction as well. You may need to set up a profile (and yes, you WILL get cute little messages from gays as well), but it's a fine forum.

Another good forum - of a more serious nature, how ever - is urnotalone.com. It's for the more "dedicated" among us and is not created primarily for chatting up sex-partners in-spe, but it can be used for that as well.

At these fora (and others) you will find all kinds of people... many are looking for customers, others are simply interested in "fun-and-games" with "safe, sane and normal" bule (white man) guys... it doesn't hurt to be a caucasian here... it doesn't hurt to be moderately attractive (like in "clean" and "sober")... and it is a MUST to be polite and respectful. One type of mindset that can get me as well as my transsexual friends really worked up is the one assuming that all transsexual are "stupid, starved sex-machines" just here for the taking...

Needless to say, none at this fine forum would have a mindset like that Wink

Well, this got a bit longer than anticipated - and, I hope, does not come out as in any way arrogant... I just wanna be as straight in these matters as possible... excuse my pun…

As for my personal involvement in getting you "connected"... probably not. It tends to be a waste of time, anyways... sorry to say it, but most socalled "admirerers" sadly are bull-shitters - easy to create a contact (and waste other people's time), but when it's supposed to go from a virtual to a real-life connection... they stay at home with mother or wife... in their safe closet...

Now THAT was arrogant...

Maybe... but I know of all the wasted chatting-hours only resulting in a "sorry, can't make it anyway" or an abyss of mere SILENCE... these bull-shitters have little respect for other people (at least the transsexuals they so gutsily "date up" from behind the screen) and tend to forget what this is all about...

So have a funky time out there guys... and trust me... you CAN!

But stay sober Wink

Peace!

Hank