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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:35 am
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Ladyboy Newbie
Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Hi all,
I know that you can supposedly get a same day test at some of the hospitals and clinics, I was just wondering what people's experiences have been with this.
How receptive are the girls to doing this? Are these tests even worth the time (I know in the U.S. you generally can't get a same day test, and most that offer one are just scammers)?
On the flip side, do you ever have girls that request it of you? |
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:31 pm
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Ladyboy God
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:35 pm
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Stay away from the "rapid kits" (they are garbage) and the hospital same day tests are standard Elisa tests, having a window of up to 3 months.
To be 99.999% sure, get an Elisa test AND a PCR-DNA test, wait 3 months and test again. If all is clear, have at it.  |
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:13 pm
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Ladyboy Newbie
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| DimitriWolfe wrote: |
Stay away from the "rapid kits" (they are garbage) and the hospital same day tests are standard Elisa tests, having a window of up to 3 months.
To be 99.999% sure, get an Elisa test AND a PCR-DNA test, wait 3 months and test again. If all is clear, have at it.  |
On the hospital tests - do you know the cost? is this done on a walk up basis, or do you have to make an appointment? Is there a website for the hospital(s)?
Thanks. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:09 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| chubster wrote: |
| DimitriWolfe wrote: |
Stay away from the "rapid kits" (they are garbage) and the hospital same day tests are standard Elisa tests, having a window of up to 3 months.
To be 99.999% sure, get an Elisa test AND a PCR-DNA test, wait 3 months and test again. If all is clear, have at it.  |
On the hospital tests - do you know the cost? is this done on a walk up basis, or do you have to make an appointment? Is there a website for the hospital(s)?
Thanks. |
Many times in the Thai hospitals the cost will depend on the doctor. I have seen the exact text fluctuate 800 baht depending on the doctor, and that is the excuse they will give you.
In Bangkok, you can expect to pay anywhere from 800 - 1500 baht depending on the hospital and doctor.
For Elisa tests, it is a walk up, 1 hour result BUT don't go too late in the day. Any hospital will test. Remember Thailand has been hit hard with HIV so they are very well prepared to test and also treat the HIV + people. It's at least one thing Thailand has done right. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:44 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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| Hi, A GG who wants to fuck me without comdom wanted to test me here in pattaya this week (30th Dec 06). We went off to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital one morning and 600 baht and half an hour later I had the result in my hand (clear I am happy to say), and it sure beat the hell out of going to Banrak on Christmas Day to get divorced! |
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:11 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
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| rslicker wrote: |
| Hi, A GG who wants to fuck me without comdom wanted to test me here in pattaya this week (30th Dec 06). We went off to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital one morning and 600 baht and half an hour later I had the result in my hand (clear I am happy to say), and it sure beat the hell out of going to Banrak on Christmas Day to get divorced! |
Yup, that is a cheap place to go. Pattaya testing on average is 200 - 400 baht less than Bangkok if you go to a hospital. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:41 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 11 Jul 2006
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Location: Japan + Phuket
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| rslicker wrote: |
| Hi, A GG who wants to fuck me without comdom wanted to test me here in pattaya this week (30th Dec 06). We went off to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital one morning and 600 baht and half an hour later I had the result in my hand (clear I am happy to say), and it sure beat the hell out of going to Banrak on Christmas Day to get divorced! |
Just hope that it was the PCR DNA test that they used, and not the ELISA antibody test. The latter has a window period from weeks to months for antibodies to the HIV to develop, so if she had been infected recently, it would not show up.
However, unless you had very rough sex with her, she was menstruating, and you had open cuts in contact with her, the chances of contracting a viral infection from her are slim.
BTW - did she get tested for hepatitis too? |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:42 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
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| Sorry, maybe I didn't write clearly enough. It was me who got tested. I didn't get tested for hep, this is a thing I've been regularly inocculated against for years. BTW do you know they now have a vaccination against hep C. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:07 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| drhoneytongue wrote: |
Just hope that it was the PCR DNA test that they used, and not the ELISA antibody test. The latter has a window period from weeks to months for antibodies to the HIV to develop, so if she had been infected recently, it would not show up.
However, unless you had very rough sex with her, she was menstruating, and you had open cuts in contact with her, the chances of contracting a viral infection from her are slim.
BTW - did she get tested for hepatitis too? |
It was not a PCR-DNA test. All the hospitals in Thailand want a 3 - 4 (sometimes 1 week) turn around time for all PCR-DNA tests. It's around 4000b, give or take depending on where it's done.
A one hour turn around for 600b was an ELISA test.
IMHO, it beats no test at all. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:39 am
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Ladyboy Newbie
Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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| rslicker wrote: |
| BTW do you know they now have a vaccination against hep C. |
Can you give a link or more info? I just checked the CDC website, and it says no vaccine for Hep C |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:03 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 11 Jul 2006
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Currently, there is no commercially available vaccine against Hepatitis C and the infection can only be treated with a combination of Interferon and Ribavirin - a long-term therapy with limited efficacy and substantial side effects. It also gives rise to high treatment costs for patients.
As of December 2006, Intercell has a Hep C vaccine (IC41) in the Phase II Clinical trial period. It started in 2003. Initial results of this study are expected in mid 2007.
Pevion Biotech announced the start of phase I clinical testing of its virosome-based hepatitis C virus (HCV) vaccine. The study is scheduled for completion by end of 2007.
Other companies are also looking at this, but I'll just use these two as examples.
For registration purposes for clinical Patient use, medicines have to undergo Phase 1, 2 and 3 clinical trials, so a commercial product is a few years away, assuming that these studies even show a benefit.
And just for your information.......as of 4th January 2007, the standard treatment for Hep C is a combination of broad-spectrum antiviral ribavirin, and the protein interferon-alpha which has been chemically modified to extend the period of time it can survive in the body. It is this modification of the interferon that is covered by patents held by pharmaceutical big shots Hoffman-La Roche and Schering Plough.
The alteration involves attaching a large sugar polymer (polyethylene glycol, known as PEG) to the surface of the interferon (a process known as pegylation) in order to increase the size of the protein. This means the molecule beomes large enough to withstand rapid metabolism and excretion by the body.
However, researchers at Hammersmith Hospital and the London School of Pharmacy developed a new method of pegylation by which the PEG is anchored within the interferon molecule itself, thus avoiding infringement of the existing patents. The new technique has been patented by Imperial College London.
The new pegylation method exploits the chemistry of the disulphide bond of the interferon molecule, making the process more efficient and also therefore more cost-effective.
The traditional pegylation process has been a real moneymaker for pharmaceutical companies, with the standard course of treatment for a single Hepatitis C Patient costing around £7000 (€10,377).
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A one hour turn around for 600b was an ELISA test.
IMHO, it beats no test at all.
As long as you understand the limits of the test...... |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:41 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 09 Oct 2005
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There seems to be some very well informed replies here- how about Hep B?
i did the vaccination series and it didn't work, so now i need to do it again. its a real pain for me to do so (i.e. lot of time and time off work), and i'm considering not doing it. do u think it is essential?
my thinking is that it may not work again and i've been with approx 100 working girls without the vaccination, so i'm wondering just how contagious it is. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:05 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 11 Jul 2006
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Hepatitis B is a sexually transmitted disease caused by a virus (HBV) that attacks the liver. The virus is found in the blood and semen and is spread in the same manner as HIV. HBV is easier to catch than HIV because it is more than 100 times more concentrated in an infected person's blood and can exist on surfaces outside the body.
The hepatitis B vaccine series consists of three doses spaced out over approximately 6 months.
After three doses of hepatitis B vaccine, at least 90% of healthy young adults develop immunity to HBV infection. Immune compromised people might not respond as well to hepatitis B vaccine. They should be tested 1-2 months after the third dose of vaccine to see if they responded.
It is worth getting it done. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:06 am
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Ladyboy Hunter
Joined: 09 Oct 2005
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| bollocks, i was hoping u wouldn't say that (but knew u would lol), cheers- i'll get it re-done. |
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