Difference between ladyboy and other transexuals ~ LB-69

Ladyboy Lover Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 18 Points: 32

Hello

I have seen pictures of Brazil shemales and some of them look really gorgeous, they're grown up women very developped with huge sticks, while the ladyboy look more like little girls with small breasts and tiny cocks.

I have never had any sex with ladyboy or transexual, so I'd like to know some things. I have heard that ladyboy (the Asian transexual) is very different from other transexuals and that the sex is different.

I sometimes think that doing it with a developped big "woman" would be more exciting than an Asian ladyboy to be chosen as the first time, but I don't know.

Can you explain this?

There are a number of things to consider with regards to the differences between ladyboys and the Brazilian transexuals.

Firstly in general terms the Brazilians have much larger body frames, & many are particularly well equipped in the dick department. When it comes to breast enhancement they tend to select much larger implants, although this relates back to their frame size. There are still plenty of ladyboys that are well equipped in the dick department and have chosen sizabe breast implants, however in relative terms the Brazilian certainly are much larger in all these areas.

Personally I believe the ladyboys are much more convincing "females" given the relatively small frame size that asians tend to possess.

Culturally the Brazilians are much more open about their sexuality, and despite what you may perceive about the ladyboys in the adult entertainment arena, the Thai's in general are much more reserved and restrained in terms of expressing their sexuality.
The Brazilian transexuals are taught to be much more open about expressing their sexuality. Many of the Brazilian transexuals are much more agressive sexually, and enjoy nothing more than finding a guy that they can drill !

With regard to what would be more suitable for your own first time experience, its very much a personal thing. Only you can decide what it is that excites you, but remember that your fantasy and the reality can be two very different scenarios.

Not sure if you are just a dreamer or are really contemplating a ladyboy/transexual experience ?

Cheers
Koykaeng

Ladyboy Newbie Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 4 Points: 20

ladyboys is the term that you call to the asian transsexuals on this part of the world... thai, filipino, malaysian, vietnamese, indonesian etc. etc.

i personally would like to would like to be called a transsexual, transgendered or a tgirl because i find the word ladyboy somewhat offensive... like the word, shemale, wherein that's what girls are labeled who work in the porn industry...

Hi Juliana,

Welcome to the forum !

Always appreciate getting some comments from a beautiful "transexual" like yourself.

With regards to the term "ladyboy", this term does appear to be fairly much exclusive to Thailand in my opinion.

I know that there are other terms used by Asian Transexuals from other areas of South East Asia. For example, the term "Waria" seems to be commonplace in Indonesia.

Interesting to hear which terms you prefer, and which you find offensive.
Will certainly keep that in mind.

Cheers
Koykaeng

Ladyboy Newbie Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 4 Points: 20

I live in Asia and it's my experience that the terms are used often with disregard to any "deeper" meaning. Certainly, I have many transsexual friends (not working in the sex-industry), and they seem to use the term "ladyboy" as they would use "transgender". In fact, my transsexual girlfriend uses these two terms constantly.

Where the term "transsexual" indicates your gender-identification (a biological guy that identifies as a woman or vice-versa) the terms "transgender", "trans-person" or "T-girl" are broader and also cover transvestites (cross-dressers).

"Shemale" tends to indicate a person with male-genitalia as well as breasts (either by hormones or implanted) where as "ladyboy" is broader and also include non-ops trans-girls.

But again, there are many different takes on the terms as well as many approaches to being transgender/transsexual.

Hank

Ladyboy Lover Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 18 Points: 32

Hi Koy

Yes I'm looking for a real experience, I want it, but I want it to be great and I must be careful. People have told me I should not look for "any" trans from my country just because I want to try and that I should try the real thing in Thailand.

I was going this march but my fiance is from Bosnia and studies in Bulgaria, she graduates and I am "forced" to spend the money for that. And next year... I have to bring her here and I'll spend more money with this. I don't loose hopes though, I plan to have the honeymoon in Thailand with some meeting or work to do that would give me an excsuse but then I think I would be evil if I do that.

And about the sex, I would really like to try that experience with a feminine trans, someone who can really really look and feel like a woman!

I know I'm so complicated

Interestingly, my Thai family friends called them "LadyMen", not ladyboys.

Here in Japan, they are called "Newhalf", while the CDs and TVs are called josousya or josouko, or often just "Joes!" TGs are quite common on Japanese TV (Television!), and three or four famous "girls" are regularly featured.

One Filipino expression is "Billyboy", though it was used mainly by the US Military for the young Pinoy dressed in girl's clothes, who were hanging around the bases at Subic Bay and Clark. Another word is "Silahis," often used for bisexual. More commonly used words for T-girls would be "pa-girl" or “malambot”, and "palorista" for many work in beauty parlours.

One extreme case I personally knew was a Filipino engineer who came to Japan for work, found it was pretty poorly paid and lousy working conditions, so he grew his hair and got breast implants, and then worked for a few years in a "Newhalf" bar outside of Yokohama. After 3-4 years, he decided he had earned enough money to provide for his family and future life in the Philippines, so he had the breasts removed, cut his hair and returned to the RP. His family were none the wiser.

Ladyboy Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 53 Points: 141

Well,from my own experience I remember that the ususal term to refer to transgendered people in Thailand is "katoey",a word that refers not only to ladyboys but also to gay men(mainly gay men with an affeminate behavior).This the word they use between them,I supose that when talking with a stranger they will use more the term "ladyboy".The most striking about all this is that the word "katoey" is,in fact,what we would call an "hermaphrodite",somebody who has two sexes. Shock

The different between ladyboy and shemale is ladyboy's penis cannot use but shemale's penis is like a guy.

Ladyboy take more hormone and medicine in order to be like a women. Almost ladyboy is beautiful and like a women. Often, we cannot know that she is a ladyboy.

Moreover, ladyboy think that her penis is ugly thing. She hate her penis and dont want anyone touch her penis.

This is my personal definition.

This is most definitely not true. My only (X) considers herself ladyboy and not shemale or trans… (something, I don’t even know what). For me she looks better than 99% of ladies I’ve seen all around Thailand but on the other hand lots of BM can tell you she likes her penis and is quite handy with using it on her clients… as can also be seen on her XXX movie and she only took hormones once in her life and stopped using it since she was sick for whole day after, so I was told. Angel

Contrary to EU trans-something wannabies who had 1001 word for their momentary state of mind/body Thai ladyboys have no problem calling themselves ladyboy in English (katoey in Thai) even though some are purely gay and others look better than Thai Miss Universe. Last trip I spent whole time with X and her ladyboy friends so believe me, I’ve seen and heard it all.

BR

In thai, we have more definition about transexual.

"Kratoey" = gay queen, ladyboy, shemale, transexual
(Kratoey may be impolite.)

"SaoSong" is a polite word for ladyboy, shemale, not for gay queen.
"Sao" is a thai word of "woman" and "Song" is a thai word for "two"

"SaoSiep" is for a ladyboy, shemale who like to use penis.
"Sao" is a thai word for "woman" and "Siep" is a thai word for "insert"

This is my personal definition from talking with thai ladyboys.
I think that although in Thailand, defferent communities may have different definitions.

Ladyboy God Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 5448 Points: 12902

idolhere, I'm not sure I'd agree with all your definitions, but it's interesting.

I don't think the ladyboys many of us meet in the sex industry are an accurate reflextion of Thai ladyboys in general. It sounds like you are meeting more non-php.

I'm assuming many ladyboys adapt and try to be more functional in sex work for the obvious reasons. I know of ladyboys who take less hormones when they are working, in order to keep customers happy. But IMHO I don't think using their penis necessarily makes a ladyboy less feminine.

The labels often cause less true understanding.

Out of interest, idolhere, are you Thai? Or a farang living in Thailand?

Thanks for kliome's opinion.
I am Thai.

I cannot write english well.
Sometime, I cannot write what I want to tell but I think it is closed to what I want.

Ladyboy God Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 5448 Points: 12902

Thanks, it would be great to hear more you and how you see things from a Thai view point.

Don't worry about your English, it's better than some of our English members (and all of the Scottish ones Very Happy

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