Having a short distance relationship is a nightamre too.. Girls, who needs them..
My darkest moment in LOS was with a GG. She was riding on top of me, panting and screaming, when her phone rang. At first she didn't answer it but it kpet ringing and ringing and finally I said it was ok for her to take the call.
It was her bf back in the UK. She told him she was at home about to go to bed - she had a deal with him that she could go to the bar but wasn't allowed to stay with customers (in fact I've heard several GGs who have that same deal - of course none of them stick by it).
She started having a heart to heart with him about how much she loved him, whilst still bouncing up and down on me. And then it got dark... He asked her if she wanted to speak to his mum, I was shaking my head 'no, no, no', but she said yes.
She starts having a converstaion with this guys mum. The worst thing is I can hear her voice clearly and she sounds like my mum. It's so dark, the mum is asking her how her job 'serving drinks' is going, and that her son is telling her how wonderful she is, and tehy are looking forward to when they have saved enough money for her to visit, and this bar girl is smiling at me, grinding away, not missing a beat, but playing the perfect innocent GF over the phone.
It was so messed up, and another early lesson to me.
It's amazing. I have several very watered down versions of the above story.
Perhaps many on these boards have had similar if not quite so stark reminders of the true allegiance of BG's.
Could I also recomend 'Private Dancer'. A rip roaring read and a salutary lesson to the ups and downs of falling in love with a person involved in the barscence in LoS.
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Damn, Kilome, that really is messed up. I guess I can understand what Kinkoy is saying, but that still seems really cold, even for a girl in the sex trade business. Talking to the mother and all, Jesus! Oh well, as you say, it was an early lesson for you. I really feel for BigTom though, and can easily understand how something like that can happen, especially since everyone had such a high opinion of Wise. If I weren't such an old fuck, I could see something like that happening to me, despite knowing the situation. It was an expensive lesson, Tom, both emotionally and financially, but it will pass and won't ever happen again to you. Hang in there.
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its actually a solid proof of the NON EXCISTANT "thai-logic"
the girl have a big sponsor (in this case tom) that pays for tits and more.....and she could proberly(if she played the cards right) have made him pay for a loooooong time....
have to make a notice here...i have meet Tom...he is young and certanly not an ugly guy...
but what does the girl do... runs out and make a hardcore porn movie for the internet....where she SHOULD know, that he will find out... and for what??? after what iwe been told they get about 4-5 k for their effort... but she loosed a sponsor that paid more than 10 times the amount....
thats "thai-logic"...
i think the old saying is right...you can take the girl out of the bar...but not the bar out of the girl........i i DO think,thats it not ALWAYS about the money...but simply they miss "that special life and friends"
as you proberly know.....i was only with Oh this trip... but even that she knew that...she sometimes went "outside" `Lita`s just to sit with the other girls like she worked in the bar... and i had no problems about it,because i realise they do have a certain kind of "brotherhood"
we do have to be realistic,(even me ) and they only have maybe 10 years to make their future...so i fell its hard to blame them,if they sometimes makes a "shortcut" as we all know...one bird in the hand...is better than 10 birds on the roof..
before i left... i had some "deep conversations" with Oh...i told her it was totally up to her what she wants to work with...i dont mind if she works in a bar or what ever...iwe just told her to "take care of her self"....i will still like her the same,cause i realise,that if not for the money, then just fore the sex....who can expect a 22 year old "girl" not to have sex for 6 month before i come back??? WTF...ill do the same back home here if i get the chance...
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I think these stories go far beyond the ladies involved in the Bar scene as Thai's have a very different logic which is very foreign to us westerners . Their idea of family is also very different to ours.
I have married a Thai , adopted her son, helped her with sponsorship with her three sisters and nephews and her Mum and Dad . Cousins have been hinted at next .
Her money is for her family , mine is to pay the mortgage, bills etc etc etc.
Our premarital agreement was that only her son and she would live in my country as everybody else are happy at home , this changed as she brought her younger sister over to be a bridesmaid and she has been bludging off us for years in between boyfriends and jobs . She started to bring the rest of the family over after she got residency (two years) .
And she wonders why I get grumpy and the sex has dried up , but with the constant strain of her family either living with us or over the road we dont have space or time for a proper relationship.
In my experience Interracial marriages are a rollercoaster , but Im sure there would be many happy ones out there that we will never get to hear about.
Edit - Mods feel free to delete if you think this is inappopriate here . Sorry had a bit of a quarrel last night and found out her sister is leaving us so that leaves me and the wife running around after the rest of the family .
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we do have to be realistic,(even me ) and they only have maybe 10 years to make their future...so i fell its hard to blame them,if they sometimes makes a "shortcut" as we all know...one bird in the hand...is better than 10 birds on the roof..
before i left... i had some "deep conversations" with Oh...i told her it was totally up to her what she wants to work with...i dont mind if she works in a bar or what ever...iwe just told her to "take care of her self"....i will still like her the same,cause i realise,that if not for the money, then just fore the sex....who can expect a 22 year old "girl" not to have sex for 6 month before i come back??? WTF...ill do the same back home here if i get the chance... [/
Hi batman these comments make a lot of sense I'm sure with this attitude you will continue to have good relationships
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good comments batman.
isnt it a lot easier when you see the real picture?
another story i think was in "private dancer"
if you give a girl 500 baht, she will buy food and escentials.
if you give her 5000 baht, she will waste the lot in one day.
i once asked a lb in amsterdam about this.
she told me, when they were growing up in the villages, they never even had money to buy anything themselves. couldnt even pop to the shop for food.
she said because the money from farang comes easy.its easy come easy go. they know they will get more.
she said in the west, we work too hard for our money, and therefore tend to think twice before blowing it.
answered my question anyway.
so, when falang give the girls a lump sum as a gift or sponsors.
they are not actually helping, nothing is going to change the lifestyle. only adding to the handbag collection.
same as falang women.
i,ve found that giving respect , holding hands, and walking with pride with an lb, goes a lot further than giving stupid money .
although money is, and always will be "number 1".
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Hi Playhard , thanks .
I'm not really sure how much longer we are going to last but I am committed to seeing her son turning 18 as he's never had a decent male role model before and I am legally responsible for him till then .
I'm just going to make the most of my holidays in Thailand and see what happens. I really dont want to be single again although I seem to get lots of interest here from women as there is supposedly a man shortage , I just can't be bothered with all the BS.
Its much more fun in Thailand ,HongKong or the Phillipines.
Wow, nice thread for the beginners. Some good points here:
- Its all a game
- You can take the girl out of the bar but ...
- Thanks for the tits sponsors, they look and feel nice (and keep sending more money so I don't spend that much for the girls)
I've actually involved with working girls before (non Thai GGs). I guess it depends on the girl most of the time. But keep in mind that the people they hang out with (friends, mamasan, guys, even family) will influence the way they think and behave. I've seen girls change drastically in a very short time.
Take your lesson and move on, life is too short (Especially in Thailand)
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runs out and make a hardcore porn movie for the internet....where she SHOULD know, that he will find out... 
but she loosed a sponsor that paid more than 10 times the amount.... 
but even that she knew that...she sometimes went "outside" `Lita`s just to sit with the other girls like she worked in the bar... 
) and they only have maybe 10 years to make their future...so i fell its hard to blame them,if they sometimes makes a "shortcut" as we all know...one bird in the hand...is better than 10 birds on the roof.. 
