Triple X - News update ~ LB-69

Jim (LB Captain) trough his "partner" has asked me to post the news re the bar's location. The bar is housed in a building owned by a Chinese family.

There is now some doubt over whether the building has been sold or not. The bars have been told they can remain where they are until January. Jim is still looking for new premises as he does not want to need to relocate at the last minute.

So Triple X is still operating on 2nd Road. Was there last night and some staff from before have returned. Probably still the wilder LB bar in Pattaya so you must not be "shy"!!

I will update you when Jim's partner updates me.

Hi Rossco,

Would love to see a few photos of the staff you refer to at this establishment.
I know it's not everyone's "cup of tea", but I like the LB's at Triple X.

They are a rather unique & interesting bunch.

Cheers
Koykaeng

To my fellow friends and customers, I have a formal complaint that I want to present to you. I do no expect you to take any side, that is your choice, but I just want to let this of my chest.
About 6 months ago I was expecting to expand my Triple X Bar to the bar next door. I had a customer at my bar at the time by the name of David Brocklesby. I happened to mention my idea to this man over a few drinks because he was a regular customer and I was in deep thought about the empty space next to my bar. This suddenly he proposes that he could be a partner with me on the open space next to me using my name and license. My girlfriend told me no and all my friends told me it was not a good idea, but thinking back about the 1.3 million baht I have already pumped into my Triple X I figured it would not be too bad to share the cost on the new bar. So I accepted his proposal. We sat down and made a verbal contract among men and agreed to it. I had a witness to our agreement, which is a respectable friend of mine, owner of Papars bar, same complex as my bar. I did this on purpose so if anything arise in the future, I would have someone who over heard our agreement.
The agreement goes like this. We both put in 120,000 baht and become equal partner on the second bar. I also carefully explain to David that my girlfriend owns the all the license under Triple X and he could not DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD JEAPORDIZE MY ORIGINAL LICENCE,INVESTMENT OR PUT MY GIRLFRIEND NAME IN DANGER OF GOING TO JAIL. If this occurs I will over ride all decision and save my original bar and he will be ban from the partnership until we can agree. We also agreed that in the case of if he did something wrong to jeopardize my original license or my girlfriend name, or if the building sold he would loose his share and their will be absolutely NO REFUND.I also told David honestly that the building was for sale and all the money I have invested into my Triple X bar has not made any profit and I don’t expect to make any, so if he is here to make a profit, forget about it and turn away. I told him that this was a hobby and a fun place for me to hang out when I come to town and a way for my girlfriend to make a little income. Mr. David Brocklesby agreed to this in the presence of Chris owners of Papar s bar, with his famous -yeah, no problem_. Before we finalized everything I recommended on one of my employees WeWe as the manager of the new bar and we agreed to give her 20 percent of any income, if any, at the end of a 6 month period. I figured he was already dating WeWe so he would be comfortable with this idea. He agreed.
So the partnership began, David went to work in Qatar and myself and Chris did all the hard work on setting up the bar. My own friend Chris did all the electrical and as I promise I got the bar running. At the first three months things were ok. David sent money to cover the rent and he came to town and throw nice parties would introduce him to all my friends as my partner, never once hiding the fact or trying to be clever like he has recently put it.
After this period, then the manager, WeWe, that David was dating starting getting ideas that she did not have to listen to me any more, David is the Boss. The manager WeWe decided to hire under age staff at our bar. I confronted her about it and she looked into my eyes and lied to me, she told me no they were over 21. My good friend Tony informed me of the real age of her employees so I confronted the employees and they admitted to me that they were underage. I informed my partner and he assured me that he would take care of it, so out of faith I let him handle it. This was the first violation of David and I original agreement. To a new partnership I let it slid. Then WeWe starting loosing control of her employees and they were going wild on the street. Police had warned me that they would shut down my bar. So I did what any bar owner would do I sack WeWe and replaced her to save my original bar and license. Dave did not take this too kindly. I warned him no more WeWe at our bar... he agreed for a short time and then his forcefully brought WeWe back to the bar after I left Thailand. To me this was the final straw... He had broken our agreement and has put my original bar and my girlfriend freedom in danger. If police came only my girlfriend would go to jail, not me, not David and not his LB honey WeWe. For some reason David could not grasp this simple concept. For those of you that visited Triple X bar on a regular basis, you could see the police rounding up 10, 15 LB s at a time. Even WeWe went to jail one night. After all these incidents I finally took control of the new bar and put it under my control. It was within my verbal agreement with David Brocklesby, which I have a witness to. After I gain control of the bar I stopped all contact with David because with all of his intelligence that this man claims, he was so lost into WeWe that he could not figure out why I was mad about this situation. I mean if the police would have shut down my original triple x bar that I had invested 1.3 million into and dragged my girlfriend to jail, would he refund my investment?? Would he go to my girlfriend village and explain to her father why his daughter is in jail?? I think not my friends.
So after breaking our verbal contract, this man has the balls to come to town and try to steal my bar away from me. He never stop to considered what he has done, instead he is crying about I owe him money and I have stolen from him. Why is it that the one that cries about stealing always are the ones that steals them most in the end?
I heard he was coming to town around the 6 of October, so I came to Thailand for a week to try and work it out but he did not come to Thailand. Now he is in Thailand he has taken the bar over, brought his honey WeWe back and changing the license to the second bar under his name. NOW TELL ME WHO IS DOING THE STEALING??
David first act when he arrived to town was to allied himself with Roland, the owner of the Farang Connection in the same complex at my bar. Now this man Roland, when I first opened Triple X told me that you could not have a LB bar in a lady bar complex. He would call the police on me on a regular basis. He would curse my LB s. One night I sat at his bar trying to make peace, he told me he hated me and my dirty lady boys and we are taking money away from him and his kids?? What the hell. This is his exact words my friends. He told me his bar would never have more then one LB working and he would be happy the day he gets rid of me. This is all after I rang his bell and empathised for him losing a member of his family???. As Triple X got busy he went from number one bar to number 0. Then all of a sudden the hypocrite starting having LB s at his bar and stealing my success?? What the hell is going on?? Roland did a 180. He suddenly lost all his hatred for LB s and became a lover over night. Hmmmmmm. So Roland and David went to my bar last week and SCREAMED AT MY 90 POUND GIRLFRIEND AND SCARE THE HELL OUT OF HER AND MADE HER CRY. What the hell kind of a man will pick on a little Thai girl?? His fat ass must be at least 200 pounds, and then he goes running around the bars telling everyone he will send me to the hospital? I might not be as big as him, but don’t let the pilot uniform fool you. If the Muslims in Bali could not kill me after 2 bombing and 9 jealous husbands could not finish me off, all I can say is good luck champ. The only thing I can agree to what David is saying about me is that I am a womanizer and I do have a problem with women, but hey we all have our weakness, especially in Thailand...
So now my friends I must ask you, what should I do? All I have said is true, I have witness, you can even ask David himself, he cannot deny it... you might hear him say that I owe him money but that’s only from his girlfriend mouth WeWe(ex manager).Oh he might deny that he his not seeing WeWe too, he denied to me. I have been in the business for 1 year and 8 months, all of my fellow bar owners that have been in the business longer then me, do you think its possible on running a beer bar with 160,000 baht and not expect to put more into the business every month, especially now days???
My friends I have put a lot of money and time into my original bar Triple X. I have done it the hard way with my time and money, and did not try to piggy back of another man's business with little money in. This is what David has tried to do to me. Piggy back on my work. Roland next door at the Farang Connection has is trying to piggy back of my work too, I would not mind so much except for the fact that I know he hates LB s and he is doing only for the money. If David wanted to be call BOSS and want the respect that comes with it, you do not steal from another man, and you do not pick on another man little girl friend and expect respect. When I go around town and visit other bars I do not let anyone call me boss, my name is Jim and that’s what my friends call me. I don’t need the big title I just need people to know that I have put my time in, and I have done it the right way.
When you head out to drink just remember there is only one Triple X, the little bar against the wall with the fish tank. The other two bars next to it are not associated with my hard work and time. I have no respect for people like that. Now if David wants to come out clean I suggest he apologize to my girlfriend and compensate me for my half of the money and time that I have put into bar number two. Only then will I see him as a fair and honest man like he claims to be. I am not an Angel but I have never stolen another mans work and try to run with it... For all of you other bar owners that have open your bar the right way. If you do hear this man David Brocklesby running his mouth in your bar, please tell him do the right thing and doesn’t steal from the man that let him into his house. As most of you know me, I am not one to post often, so I would not waste your time with bullshit. What I have posted is the truth. I am sad over this whole situation, I should have listen to my trusted friends 6 months ago and never have taken on a partner on that second bar. Never again... I hope you understand my feeling.
Thanks
LB Captain
Jim Simpson

Ladyboy Hunter Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 464 Points: 890

The thing in this story that knocked me over was not the goings on - thats par for the course in the kind of verbal agreement you had but I was more amazed that you spent 1,300,000 baht on setting up XXX bar - I doubt there is more than 100,000b worth of equipment in there.

Probably just goes to demonstrate that I suspect most LB bars in Pattaya (with one or two exceptions) are running at a continual loss and being supported by owners other income.

Cheers
Mardhi

Ladyboy Hunter Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 130 Points: 200

Has anyone suggested one party buy out the other so a fresh start can be made?

Alternatively has the idea of getting someone new to buy one or both of the existing partners out been discussed?

hi lbcaptin,,
employ me, ill take care of things, make sure your good lady isnt upset again and ill protect your assets.
just a thought, need a income to live there or id be there now full time, instead of holidays.
stevie

Ladyboy Hunter Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 236 Points: 288

I obviously don't understand Thailand...or maybe i misread the post. How does someone with only a verbal agreement barge into a bar, take it over through intimidation, threaten the girlfriend and the owner, change the license to another bar(2nd bar) and start running things with no recourse for the actual owner? It sounds like the wild west.

Hope you can work something out....

"LBCaptain - I do no expect you to take any side, that is your choice, but I just want to let this of my chest."

It looks as if you do want us to take your side....but...

Not really sure of the point of the post. A number of accusations aimed at a person who does not have an opportunity to reply, OR a public display and admission of rather poor business sense, even by the standards of T.I.T. (This is Thailand).

Don't think is the place for this kind of post.....

Ladyboy Addict Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 55 Points: 96

"...Now he is in Thailand he has taken the bar over, brought his honey WeWe back and changing the license to the second bar under his name..."

How does this happen? Some key info missing on this point.

Ladyboy Hunter Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 464 Points: 890

Ladyboy Expert Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 828 Points: 1816

let alone the money to buy the existing bar.....

Yes I understand key money but even so, its an incredibly high figure. Not doubting he paid it - just amazed he did. As an example, Guess bar paid zero key money for its location in Bangkok. The whole cost of entry to a bar is what will make it work or fail - seen it countless times before where the rent + key money make it virtually impossible to make any profit let alone a reasonable profit.

Cheers
Mardhi[/quote]

From what I can see, Triple X bar is located on a major road(2nd Road), whereas Guess Bar is located inside a building. What I believe Jim paid for was the traffic on 2nd Road outside his bar, whereas Guess paid for the smart decor and furnishings and launched the bar on websites. Triple X was a more traditional launch while yours Mardhi was more in keeping with the 21st century and the evolving, exploding third sex.

Cheers

Hi Jim,

Having just read your story and knowing Roland i can understand what he put you through.

What i don't understand is my best friend Wayne used to own the bar next to your formerly the "Happy Slapper" Twelve months well ..... over 1 year now he tried to sell his bar but found out ALL leases was not to be extended at the end of the 3 year contract due to a link road between 2nd and 3rd road. So obviously Wayne’s deal feel through! So Wayne trashed his own bar over night and informed each owner of ALL 3 residing bars there of the Chinese families future intentions before going back to the U.K.

I appreciate Wayne himself who adored ALL your ladyboys was a little crazy occasionally BUT despised Roland would have put you in the full picture regards any type of expansion in that complex 12 months ago ?

Anyway …. My personal best wishes to yourself and the ladies of Triple X for your relocation

Best wishes,

Karl.