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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:05 am  Reply with quote
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I'm pretty new to LBs/SheMales/TS, but I can't stop thinking about them. I have a couple questions for guys who probably know more than I do.

1) Are all the pretty ones sex workers? I don't have a problem with sex work, but what if I think I may want to have a real relationship with one. An ex-hooker isn't my ideal mate I don't think.

2) In your opinions are they really "women trappen in men's bodies"? Or is it something else, like some delusion or something or weird parenting stuff?

If these questions have been asked, sorry - I appreciate any and all answers/thoughts.
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matrix2
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:21 am  Reply with quote
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Q1= Yes there is plenty of them in stores,hair salons and so on.
Q2= I guess that depends from each individuals.
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pentire
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:33 am  Reply with quote
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Also, some of them are Men trapped in Womens bodies because aint no way that cock is gonna get cut off Confused
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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:48 am  Reply with quote
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pentire wrote:
Also, some of them are Men trapped in Womens bodies because aint no way that cock is gonna get cut off Confused


This is confusing to me. Do you mean LBs who keep the cock are Men in Women's bodies?

ok, I had a class last quarter where a couple TS spoke about what happened to them. Their opinions were that the penis/vagina doesn't make a person's gender. This is hard to get my heard around, but I think I get it. From my understanding it's about how a person feels or understands themself. But I don't know since I only had this one class and a ton of porn.

Am I off track here? If it is a delusion and LBs/SheMales/TS are delusional, are guys like me just humoring them in their delusion?
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matrix2
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:48 am  Reply with quote
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pentire wrote:
Also, some of them are Men trapped in Womens bodies because aint no way that cock is gonna get cut off Confused


And those we like yes ???

Razz Razz Razz
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matrix2
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:51 am  Reply with quote
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Newdude wrote:
pentire wrote:
Also, some of them are Men trapped in Womens bodies because aint no way that cock is gonna get cut off Confused


This is confusing to me. Do you mean LBs who keep the cock are Men in Women's bodies?

ok, I had a class last quarter where a couple TS spoke about what happened to them. Their opinions were that the penis/vagina doesn't make a person's gender. This is hard to get my heard around, but I think I get it. From my understanding it's about how a person feels or understands themself. But I don't know since I only had this one class and a ton of porn.

Am I off track here? If it is a delusion and LBs/SheMales/TS are delusional, are guys like me just humoring them in their delusion?


I do think that the TS/LBīs you had in class where dead right.
I for one do think that the sex gender is in the mind and soul,and not allways in the penis/vigina

BUT, the only ones who can really answear your question on that is the TS/LBīs them self.
Regards:Matrix
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kliome
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:07 am  Reply with quote
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With regards to Q1, of course there are many many LBs all over the world that work in all works of life. Spending time in Thailand you come across hundreds of ladyboys working outside of bars and escorting. Saying that, most LBs discussed and pictured in this website work in the sex/model (ahem!) industry.

Wirh regards to Q2, personally I'd say you are thinking about it way too much. The only way you get to know someone is by being around them, it's irrelevant to consider whether 'they' are male or female. If you like a TS/LB, spend time in the presence and get to know that person and perhaps your question will be answered.
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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:15 am  Reply with quote
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Thanks guys!!

I'm happy to hear that my fears about Q1 are unfounded. I guess when you troll pron sites you "meet" girls who do sex work Smile .

As far as #2... It's just confusing I guess. I think my curiosity may be getting the better of me here. Still, I can see LBs THINKING they were a woman, but being delusional.. like some crazy old uncle who THINKS he's Napoleon.

What do you guys who have actually been around LBs/TSs think? Sorry if I'm comming off daft hee. I really do appreciate all the input so far!!
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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:17 am  Reply with quote
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... I should also add..

I can also see that LBs are actually the product of some natural hormonal/mental thing that makes their body and brain develop in different ways.
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kliome
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:28 am  Reply with quote
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It's not daft, it's a viable but huge discussion point/debate.

It doesn't tackle Q2, but here is a link to a few common Qs and As newbies tend to have.

http://www.lb-69.com/forum/5282_COMMON_QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS.html&highlight=common

In the short the answer to your question depends on how black and white your view of the world is. LB/TS are born men so some people will argue that this is what they are, but some of us who have spent a lot of time with LBs may aregue other wise. It's well pointed out that the amount of pain (mental and phycial) and sacrifice it takes to go through hormones and surgery (let alone wearing high heels) demonstrates some LB/TS desire to become a woman.

I also find spending time with a lot of LBs I genuinely start to see (accept) some of them as being women, whereas there are some LBs/TV/femboys which come across more as more feminine males.
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matrix2
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:25 am  Reply with quote
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kliome wrote:
It's not daft, it's a viable but huge discussion point/debate.

It doesn't tackle Q2, but here is a link to a few common Qs and As newbies tend to have.

http://www.lb-69.com/forum/5282_COMMON_QUESTIONS_AND_ANSWERS.html&highlight=common

In the short the answer to your question depends on how black and white your view of the world is. LB/TS are born men so some people will argue that this is what they are, but some of us who have spent a lot of time with LBs may aregue other wise. It's well pointed out that the amount of pain (mental and phycial) and sacrifice it takes to go through hormones and surgery (let alone wearing high heels) demonstrates some LB/TS desire to become a woman.

I also find spending time with a lot of LBs I genuinely start to see (accept) some of them as being women, whereas there are some LBs/TV/femboys which come across more as more feminine males.


Totaly agree with you there Kliome Smile
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sayang
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:20 am  Reply with quote
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kliome .... your answers are dead on ... really have to agree with you
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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:55 am  Reply with quote
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Thanks again guys!

I'm not so black and white on most things, and I understand that it must be difficult to change from man to woman bodies and expensive too I think. So I guess somebody wouldn't go to the trouble unless they had a need to do it.

But here I see posters refer to LBs as "he" and "lads" and "he/she" while the TSs in the class said that was pretty offensive to them. I guess since on one hand most of you patently deny being even a little "gay" wouldn't sleeping with a "lad" be a little gay?

I don't think of myself as gay, and I read the topics on that issue (thanks for posting those to!!) and agree with the general thought that I think the femaleness of the LB is what is attractive. I think what I'm wondering is..

(more questions)

Q3) is it ok to call a LB a guy?
Q4) if so, wouldn't that still be gay?

My personal thought is to let the LBs define themself as woman if that's how they understand themself to be. Is this just me being a sucker or not quite understanding this? If I liked a LB and wanted to be with them I wouldn't get hung up on the whole gay/straight thing, so I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm just curious why some guys call LBs by male pronouns and titles while still maintaining their heterosexuality?

And if it is offensive to call a LB a "guy", why do it?
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pentire
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:36 pm  Reply with quote
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Newdude wrote:


Q3) is it ok to call a LB a guy?
Q4) if so, wouldn't that still be gay?


Now I'm starting to believe that you have turned up here to create some, shall we say..... mischief Surprised
Frivolous questions like that are not worthy of a response.

Anyway, at least it gives me the opportunity to try out the ignore button Laughing
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Newdude
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:51 pm  Reply with quote
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wow sorry if anyone got that impression from my questions. Really not trying to offend here. I guess I'll be blunt with the question and not try to explain so much.

If LBs understand that they are women, why would guys who go out with them call them by male terms?

I wouldn't have thought to call a LB anything by "her" and "she", but I've seen guys who have actually been with them use "lad" and "he" and "He/she" here, i'm genuinely confused.

What mischief is there in that question?
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